2011 Chevelle Wagon Pictures

7 Responses to 2011 Chevelle Wagon Pictures

1. Roger says:

   Wednesday, October 26, 2011 at 6:25 am

   And we wonder why we bent the 12-bolt rear end after all these many years of abuse? 🙂
2. CHRIS YOUNG says:

   Wednesday, October 26, 2011 at 8:24 pm

   IMAGINE HOW BAD IT WOULD BE IF WE STILL LEFT AT 5000 RPMS!
   • Roger says:

     Thursday, October 27, 2011 at 11:40 am

     Our old 35-spline Summers Bros. axles, spool and steel carrier caps never failed which is a testimony to some rather dated technology. Summers Bros. led the way in axle technology long before Strange, Mark Williams or Moser.

     I can only hope we get that many years of service from the new 9-inch Ford components!
3. CHRIS YOUNG says:

   Friday, October 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm

   CAN NOT IMAGINE HOW MANY RUNS ARE ON THE AXLES AND SPOOL. THE QUALITY OF SUMMERS BROTHERS STUFF IS UNQUESTIONABLE!
4. Butch says:

   Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 11:23 pm

   Roger & Chris, is that a lighter blue? I never noticed it until these pics.

   That sure is some abuse on the 12 bolt. I tell you, I know many people who have used Summers and I have never seen anything break. I also know a lot who use Mark Williams and Moser.

   My personal opinion is the Mark Williams is KILLER now days. You know how the C-Clip eliminators are aluminum? The Mark Williams are either 4130 or 4340 steel, so they can take loads on the street of turns etc better than aluminum

   For what its worth, I used Strange C-Clip eliminators on my stock axles for a while, and never had the leaking issues, and installed them on customers and friends cars.

   I did go beyond the instructions. Where the back half meets the backing plate, they want you to cut off the bearings seal lip and leave .062″ there.

   I looked at it for about 30 minutes, took some size readings. If I remember correctly, the rear hub has .300″ deep, and they want a tiny lip to go in there. Here is what I did,

   I measured the .300″ for example, I installed the backing plate with the nuts and bolts, then cut the lip so it was .275″ deep, so it would go almost all the way into the locating hub. I have never had one leak on me or anyone’s car I have installed them on, But most people don’t look at the design and figure out how to make things work better.

   My thinking was, if 4 bolts in a square pattern have to locate this aluminum hub we are in trouble. So after I cut it and fit it, it sits and locates PERFECT like this. Bearings feel like new. I had one car that leaked, had new c-clip kit and had new ends put on (Factory style), now has no leaking issues on the street.

   Have you seen the special spline Mark Williams use? They offer a special spline that is rolled to mesh together like a ring and pinion for higher strength.

   The Moser kit we used, were 35 splines, the spool was offset splines. Dead center of the splines on both axles were located dead center of the main caps. Of course you have to request it, and axles are made L and R, it worked great in the Camaro.
   • Roger says:

     Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 2:13 pm

     Butch, I have seen Summers axles break in Modified Production, but that was with a LOT of abuse! It was always the left axle.
5. Butch says:

   Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 2:27 pm

   Interesting, That was the main change Moser made on our axle kit. The right axle was longer, the left was shorter, and the spool was different. I should have took pics because visually you could see something was different. The difference was the clamp force of the bearing cap, clamped down on the “center” of the splines of the spool & axle on both sides.

   Is this where the failures were? Maybe this is a good mod to do? All I know is Moser suggested it for Super Stock type car, and stick cars, plus it was no extra on the custom stuff but they had to know if we wanted that option, so we did it. Very interesting for sure

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