We Were Soldiers…

Ia Drang – Where Battlefield Losses Convinced Ho, Giap and McNamara the U.S. Could Never Win By Joseph Galloway – History Net, Vietnam magazine – Posted 15 Feb 11

“…What happened when the American cavalrymen and the People’s Army of Vietnam (PAVN) collided head-on in the Ia Drang had military and civilian leaders in Washington, Saigon and Hanoi scrambling to assess what it meant, and what had been learned.

“Both sides understood that the war had changed suddenly and dramatically in those few days. At higher levels, both sides claimed victory in the Ia Drang, although those who fought and bled and watched good soldiers die all around them were loath to use so grand a word for something so tragic and terrible that would give people their nightmares for a long time, or a lifetime…”

Joe Galloway at 2008 Spur reunion - Pam Young photo

 

Read: McNamara Memo

Courtesy of the Army Times

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Honoring a Hero of Lima Site 85

Tribute – Sgt. Richard Etchberger, Who Received Medal of Honor Posthumously for Heroics at Secret Site in 1968History Net, Vietnam magazine – Posted 15 Feb 11

“…In March 1968, Etchberger and 15 airmen—along with two CIA officers and a forward air controller—were living at Lima Site 85 in Laos. This was a highly secret radar facility needed by the USAF to direct strike missions in Laos and North Vietnam…”

The building of Lima Site 85 in Phou Pha Thi, Laos was for air tactical support for the Vietnam War. The tragedy at this site was the single largest ground combat loss of USAF personnel during the Vietnam conflict. Video courtesy of CAT/Air America, University of Texas at Dallas.
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North Platte Canteen

Submitted by Robert Fisher
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Now They’re Feeling Guilty

  

 
 
 
 

Courtesy of Roger Young

The “I-missed-Vietnam” Guilt 

“The day I turned 19, I went down for my physical and had my first and only experience of Army life. I took with me a letter from Dr. Murphy, my childhood doctor, describing in uncompromising detail the asthma that had been a major part of my life up to 16.” 

Thus begins an article by Christopher Buckley in the September issue of Esquire magazine – an article that should spur millions of members of a generation of American men to question a part of their lives that they had thought they put behind them long ago. Buckley – the son of conservative columnist William F. Buckley Jr. – describes in the article how he had received a medical deferment from the Army, and thus how he had escaped going to Vietnam. 

The article is titled “Viet Guilt, ” and it addresses itself to those millions of young American men who did not go to Vietnam – and who are beginning to realize, all these years later, that by not going they may have proved something about their own lack of courage – their own, lack of manhood, if you will – that ought to make them very uncomfortable. Enough words have been devoted to the moral issues of the war. The point that Chris Buckley makes is that, if the truth were really to be told, most of the men who managed to stay home from Vietnam did not do so for reasons of morality alone. Their real reason for not going was that they did not want to die, did not want to get shot at. And they found out that there were many ways to avoid Vietnam. Young men of my generation got out of Vietnam because of college deferments, because of medical deferments, because of having a “lucky” number in the Selective Service birthday lottery that was initiated toward the end of the war. Three million men of fighting age went to Indochina during the Vietnam War; 16 million men of fighting age did not. 

Buckley was one of the men who did not – and I was, too. Reading his article made me realize the truth of the emotions I have been feeling lately about that particular subject. I sense a strong feeling – “shame” is not too strong a word – among many men who did not go to Vietnam, and perhaps now is the time to bring that feeling out into the open. 

Those of us who did not go may have pretended that we held some moral superiority over those who did, but we must have known – even back then – that that was largely sham. A tiny, tiny minority served jail terms – the rest of us avoided the war through easier methods. The men who went to Vietnam were no more involved with the politics of the war than we were. They were different from us in only two important ways: They hadn’t figured out a successful way to get out of going, and they had a certain courage that we lacked. Not “courage” as defined the way we liked to define it; not “courage” in the sense of opposing the government’s policies in Vietnam. But courage in an awful, day-to-day sense; courage in being willing to be over there while most of their generation stayed home. When I meet men my age who are Vietnam veterans, I find myself reacting the same way that Chris Buckley indicates he does. 

I find myself automatically feeling a little lacking. “I have friends who served in Vietnam…” Buckley writes. “They all saw death up close every day, and many days dealt with it themselves. They’re married, happy, secure, good at what they do; they don’t have nightmares and they don’t shoot up gas stations with M-16s. Each has a gentleness I find rare in most others, and beneath it a spiritual sinew that I ascribe to their experience in the war. I don’t think I’ll ever have what they have, the aura of I have been weighed on the scales and have not been found wanting, and my sense at this point is that I will always feel the lack of it…”

 I think many of us are just beginning to realize that. I know when I meet those men of my generation who did serve in Vietnam, I automatically feel less worthy than they are; yes, less of a man, if you want to use that phrase. Those of us who did not have to go to Vietnam may have felt, at the time, that we were getting away with something; may have felt, at the time, that we were the recipients of a particular piece of luck that had value beyond price. But now, I think, we realize that by not having had to go we lost forever the chance to learn certain things about ourselves that only men who have been in war together will ever truly know. 

Our fathers learned those things in World War II; our sons, God forbid, may learn them in some future conflict. But we – those of us who did not go – managed to avoid something that would have helped form us into different people than we are now. Buckley writes “by not putting on uniforms, we forfeited what might have been the ultimate opportunity, in increasingly self-obsessed times, of making the ultimate commitment to something greater than ourselves. The survival of comrades.” But I think it may go even beyond that; I think it may go to the very definition of our manhood. I know that when I meet a man who, it turns out, has served in Vietnam, part of me wonders whether he is able to read my mind. 

I don’t know how widespread this feeling is among men of my generation who didn’t go; but I can testify that, at least for some of us, it’s there, all right. 

WELCOME HOME VETERANS!

Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Vietnam combat veteran and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has often expressed anger about the class gap between those who fought in Vietnam and those who did not.

“I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units,” he wrote in his 1995 autobiography, My American Journey. “Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country.”
 

By James Bamford for USA TODAY
17 September 2002

 

 

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M134 Minigun

Details on the minigun used on our Cobras & Scouts

Mini on Spur OH-6A, courtesy of Roger Young

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History of the Bell AH-1 Cobra

Please read: Bell AH-1 Cobra

Spur Cobra courtesy of Bill McCalister

 

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Video: Army Chopper Pilot Training

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AH-56 Cheyenne

Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne

“The Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne was a single-engine attack helicopter developed by Lockheed for the United States Army‘s Advanced Aerial Fire Support System (AAFSS) program to produce the Army’s first dedicated attack helicopter. Lockheed designed the AH-56 utilizing a four-bladed rigid-rotor and configured the aircraft as a compound helicopter; with low-mounted wings and a tail-mounted thrusting propeller. The Cheyenne was powered by a GE T64 turboshaft engine and was intended to provide a 212-knot (244 mph, 393 km/h) dash capability in order to serve as an armed escort to the Army’s transport helicopters, such as the UH-1 Iroquois…”

 

Cheyenne at Army Aviation museum, Ft. Rucker – Courtesy of Roger Young

 

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Video: B Troop, 3-17th Cav, Iraq

Submitted by CPT. Corwin, produced during their 2007-2008 tour.

Warning – Graphic Video!

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Army Huey’s Retired

Legendary Huey helicopter earns Army retirementSeattle Times – 28 Jan 11

“…There’s no doubt that without this aircraft, we couldn’t have done what we did there in Vietnam,’ said retired Col. Phillip Courts, commander of the Army’s Ninth Aviation Brigade in Vietnam and a guest speaker at Wednesday’s ceremony…”

Courtesy of John Dostal

History of the UH-1 Huey

Submitted by fellow Spur, Paul Clergy

Subject:  Retiring the Last Huey

This is the speech given at Ft Rucker when they retired the last Huey: CW4 Lawrence Castagneto, 17 May 2011

As a Vietnam Veteran Army Aviator, I would like to thank everyone for coming to this special occasion, on this to be honest…very sad day, the end of a era. An era that has spanned over 50 years. The retirement of this grand old lady “OUR MOTHER” … the Huey.

I would like to thank, MG Crutchfield for allowing me to speak at this event and try to convey in my own inadequate, meager way.. what this aircraft means to me and so many other Vietnam veterans.

First a few facts:

It was 48 yrs ago this month that the first Huey arrived in Vietnam with units that were to become part of the 145th and the 13th Combat Aviation Battalions; both units assigned here at Ft Rucker today. While in Vietnam, the Huey flew approximately 7,457,000 combat assault sorties; 3,952,000 attack or gunship sorties and 3,548,000 cargo supply sorties. That comes to
over 15 million sorties flown over the paddies and jungles of
Nam, not to include the millions of sorties flown all over the world and other combat zones since then ….what a amazing journey…. I am honored and humbled to have been a small part of that journey.

To those in the crowd that have had the honor to fly, crew, or ride this magnificent machine in combat, we are the chosen few, the lucky ones . They understand what this aircraft means, and how hard it is for me to describe my feelings about her as a Vietnam combat pilot…. for she is alive… has a life of her own, and has been a life long friend.

How do I break down in a few minutes a 42 year love affair, she is as much a part of me, and to so many others,,,as the blood that flows through our veins.  Try to imagine all those touched over the years …by the shadow of her blades.

Other aircraft can fly overhead and some will look up and some may not; or even recognize what they see but, when a Huey flies over everyone looks up and everyone knows who she is… young or old all over the world she connects with all.

To those that rode her into combat… the sound of those blades causes our heart beat to rise… and breaths to quicken… in anticipation of seeing that beautiful machine fly overhead and the feeling of comfort she brings. No other aircraft in the history of aviation evokes the emotional response the Huey does… combat veteran’s or not… she is recognized all around the world by young and old, she is the ICON of the Vietnam war, U.S. Army Aviation, and the U.S. Army. Over 5 decades of service she carried Army
Aviation on her back, from bird dogs and piston powered helicopters with a secondary support mission, to the force multiplier combat arm that Army Aviation is today.

Even the young aviators of today, that are mainly Apache pilot’s, Blackhawk pilot’s, etc., that have had a chance to fly her will tell you there is no greater feeling, honor, or thrill then to be blessed with the opportunity to ride her thru the sky… they may love there Apaches and Blackhawks, but they will say there is no aircraft like flying the Huey “it is special”. There are two kinds of helicopter pilots: those that have flown the Huey and those that wish they could have.

The intense feelings generated for this aircraft are not just from the flight crews but, also from those who rode in back …into and out of the “devils caldron”.  As paraphrased here from “Gods own lunatics”, Joe Galloway’s tribute to the Huey and her flight crews and other Infantry veterans comments:

”Is there anyone here today who does not thrill to the sound of those Huey blades?? That familiar whop-whop-whop is the soundtrack of our war…the lullaby of our younger days it is burned in to our brains and our hearts. To those who spent their time in Nam as a grunt, know that noise was always a great comfort… Even today when I hear it, I stop…catch my breath…and search the sky for a glimpse of the mighty eagle.

”To the pilots and crews of that wonderful machine …we loved you, we loved that machine.

”No matter how bad things were…if we called … you came… down through the hail of green tracers and other visible signs of a real bad day off to a bad start.  I can still hear the sound of those blades churning the fiery sky ….To us you seemed beyond brave and fearless… Down you would come to us in the middle of battle in those flimsy thin skin -chariots …into the storm of fire and hell,..

”…we feared for you , we were awed by you. We thought of you and that beautiful bird as ” God’s own lunatics”… and wondered …who are theses men and this machine and where do they come from …… Have to be “Gods Angels”.

”So with that I say to her, that beautiful lady sitting out there, from me and all my lucky brothers, that were given the honor to serve their country, and the privilege of flying this great lady in skies of Vietnam – Thank you for the memories…Thank you for always being there…Thank you for always bringing us home regardless of how beat up and shot up you were…,Thank You!!!!

”You will never be forgotten, we loved you then….. we love you now… and will love you till our last breath …

”And as the sun sets today, if you listen quietly and closely you will hear that faint wop wop wop of our mother speaking to all her children past and present who rode her into history in a blaze of glory …she will be saying to them:  I am here… I will always be here with you. I am at peace and so should you be … and so should you be.”

 

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Video: The Man In The Doorway

A YouTube video tribute I found to all Lift crew chiefs & door gunners! – Roger

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DVD: Low Level Hell

A tribute to all who served in the Scouts – submitted by Bill McCalister

Low Level Hell:The Hughes 500 story

This is the story of a  remarkable helicopter simply known as the  500.

It is also the story of the courageous Scout pilots and crew who flew the OH6A or Loach in Vietnam, the predecessor of todays 500. These brave men wrote the first chapters in the 500 story. Archival footage from Vietnam as well as interviews with Scout pilots document the incredible achievements of this amazing helicopter in what can only be described as low level hell.

Courtesy of Roger Young

History of the OH-6

Air America’s Black Helicopter

“…In the last dark nights of the Vietnam War, however, a secret government organization did use a helicopter for a single, sneaky mission. But it was no ordinary aircraft. The helicopter, a limited-edition model from the Aircraft Division of Hughes Tool Company, was modified to be stealthy. It was called the Quiet One—also known as the Hughes 500P, the ‘P’ standing for Penetrator…”

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