Video: Silver Spurs at Quan Loi, RVN

Quan Loi was the home of A Troop, 3/17th Cav for portions of 1970-1971. The Silver Spurs participated in the 1970 Cambodian incursion OPCON to the 1/9th Cav -1st Cavalry Division. In 1971 the Spurs returned again to Cambodia to support ARVN elements in their move towards Snoul. The Silver Spurs and others from the 3/17th Cav received a Valorous Unit Award for their participation in the 1970 Cambodian incursion. In honor to our fallen Troopers and all who served.

My personal thanks to all my fellow Spurs for the pictures they shared with me, and a special thanks to Spur 13, Tom White for the video portion. – Roger “Bear” Young

 

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Portraits of the Fallen…

An artist named Kaziah Hancock paints portraits of fallen soldiers free of charge for their families as part of Project Compassion. Video by KARE 11/ Minneapolis/ St. Paul.

Submitted by CJ (Chuck) Rennie 

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Freedom

Submitted by Waldo

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Combat Trauma: A Personal Look at Long-Term Consequences

Interview – James D. Johnson, author of Combat Trauma: A Personal Look at Long-Term ConsequencesHistory Net/Vietnam Magazine

As chaplain with the 3rd Battalion, 60th Infantry, 9th Division, Jim Johnson didn’t carry a gun, but was in 22 firefights, 10 of which turned into major battles. Serving with the Mobile Riverine Force in the Mekong Delta for nearly a year beginning in July 1967, Chaplain Johnson was determined to be with his men when they needed him most, during combat. After Vietnam, Johnson stayed in the Army serving at Fort Bliss and in Germany. After 15 years, Lt. Col. Johnson retired from the Army and earned his doctorate in marriage and family counseling. Nearly four decades after serving in Vietnam, post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) overtook Johnson, forcing him to give up his career. In his new book Combat Trauma: A Personal Look at Long-Term Consequences, Johnson and 15 of his comrades share their intimate experiences of the combat they waged in Vietnam, and that they continue to wage inside themselves.

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Silver Spur General Officers

We have four fellow Spurs who rose to the ranks of General Officers that we are very proud of. They are:

MG Dennis  Kenneally
MG Timothy (Tim) Wright

BG Thomas Patrick (Pat) Barrett 
BG Larry Gillespie

  

In addition to these gentlemen above, there is Gen. Gary Luck (4-star) from B or C Troop that played a significant role in the Gulf War to force Saddam’s forces out of Kuwait.

Compiled by Spur 3, Chuck Oualline
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Honoring Roy Benavidez, MOH

A great YouTube tribute to MOH recipient, Roy Perez Benavidez – (5 Aug 1935 – 29 Nov 1998).

My wife, Pam, had the honor to meet Roy in March 1994 in Texas:

 

Pam Young & Roy Benavidez, March 1994

Video: Roy in his own words

Roy’s MOH citation is posted in the comment section

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Movie: No Substitute For Victory

I had heard of this 1970 movie, but had never seen it. It’s now available on YouTube. Some would call it propaganda, but there is certainly truth here also. – Roger Young

The Communist threat and its zenith in Vietnam, is the focus of this video, hosted by John Wayne, with interviews of Lowell Thomas and Sgt. Barry Sadler.
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Nixon’s Cambodia Address

Those of us with the 3/17th at the time didn’t hear this address but had become the tip of the spear for the 1970 incursion into the Fish Hook region while operating out of Quan Loi with the 1/9th Cav.

Courtesy of Roger Young

The Cambodian Incursion: A Hard Line for Change
by Jeremiah S. Boenisch

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Bob Hope & Martha Raye

 

A Salute to Martha Raye,  1916 – 1994 by Pam Young

Courtesy of the Green Beret magazine, December 1970

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Inspirational Story by a POW Flight Surgeon

Submitted by Bill Reynolds, Spur 16

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An inspirational story about an American hero; the story of a very brave and dedicated U.S. Army Flight Surgeon, as told to his peers at the 1st Cavalry reunion at Ft. Hood…..When things are not going well…. The words of Dr Hal Kushner….

 

“I want you to know that I don’t do this often.  I was captured 2 Dec.1967, and returned to American control on 16 Mar.1973.  For those of you good at arithmetic 1931 days.  Thus it has been 32 years since capture and 26 years since my return.  I have given a lot of talks, about medicine, about ophthalmology, even about the D Day Invasion as I was privileged to go to Normandy and witness the 50th anniversary of the invasion in Jun.1944.  But not about my captivity.  I don’t ride in parades; I don’t open shopping centers; I don’t give interviews and talks about it.  I have tried very hard NOT to be a professional POW.  My philosophy has always been to look forward, not backward, to consider the future rather than the past.  That’s a helluva thing to say at a reunion, I guess. In 26 years, I’ve given only two interviews and two talks.  One to my hometown newspaper, one to the Washington Post in 1973, and a talk at Ft. Benning in 1991 and to the Military Flight Surgeons in 1993.  I’ve refused 1,000 invitations to speak about my experiences.  But you don’t say no to the 1-9th, and you don’t say no to your commander.  COL Bob Nevins and COL Pete Booth asked me to do this and so I said yes sir and prepared the talk.  It will probably be my last one.

 

“I was a 26-year-old young doctor, just finished 9 years of education, college at the University of North Carolina, med school at Medical College of VA, a young wife and 3 year old daughter.  I interned at the hospital in which I was born, Tripler Army Med Center in Honolulu, HI.  While there, I was removed from my internship and spent most of my time doing orthopedic operations on wounded soldiers and Marines.  We were getting hundreds of wounded GIs there, and filled the hospital.  After the hospital was filled, we created tents on the grounds and continued receiving air evacuation patients. So I knew what was happening in Vietnam.  I decided that I wanted to be a flight surgeon. I had a private pilot’s license and was interested in aviation.  So after my internship at Tripler, I went to Ft. Rucker and to Pensacola and through the Army and Navy’s aviation medicine program and then deployed to Vietnam.  While in basic training and my Escape & Evasion course, they told us that as Doctors, we didn’t have to worry about being captured.  Doctors and nurses they said were not POWs, they were detained under the Geneva Convention.  If they treated us as POWs, we should show our Geneva Convention cards and leave. It was supposed to be a joke and it was pretty funny at the time.

 

“I arrived in Vietnam in Aug.1967 and went to An Khe.  I was told that the Division  needed two flight surgeons; one to be the div. flight surgeon at An Khe in the rear and the other to be surgeon for the 1-9th a unit actively involved with the enemy. I volunteered for the 1-9th. The man before me, CPT Claire Shenep had been killed and the dispensary was named the Claire Shenep Memorial Dispensary.  Like many flight surgeons, I flew on combat missions in helicopters, enough to have earned three air medals and one of my medics, SSG Jim Zeiler used to warn me: ‘Doc, you better be careful. We’ll be renaming that dispensary, the K&S Memorial Dispensary.’ I was captured on 2 Dec., 1967 and held for five and a half years until 16 Mar.,1973.   I have never regretted the decision that I made that Aug. to be the 1-9th flight surgeon.  Such is the honor and esteem that I hold the squadron.  I am proud of the time I was the squadron’s flight surgeon. On 30 Nov.1967, I went to Chu Lai with MAJ Steve Porcella, WO-1 Giff Bedworth and SGT McKeckney, the crew chief of our UH-1H.  I gave a talk to a troop at Chu Lai on the dangers of night flying.  The weather was horrible, rainy and windy, and I asked MAJ Porcella, the A/C commander, if we could spend the night and wait out the weather.  He said, ‘Our mission is not so important but we have to get the A/C back.’ I’ll never forget the devotion to duty of this young officer; it cost him his life. While flying from Chu Lai to LZ Two Bits, I thought we had flown west of Hwy. 1, which would be off course.  I asked Steve if we had drifted west.  He called the ATC at Duc Pho and asked them to find him.  The operator at Duc Pho said that he had turned on his radar off at 2100.  He said, ‘Do you want me to turn it on and find you?’  MAJ Porcella replied ‘Roj’ and that was the last thing he ever said. The next thing I knew I was recovering from unconsciousness in a burning helicopter which seemed to be upside down.  I tried to unbuckle my seat belt and couldn’t use my left arm.  I finally managed to get unbuckled and immediately dropped and almost broke my neck.  My helmet was plugged into the intercom and the wire held me as I dropped out of the seat which was inverted. The helicopter was burning. Poor MAJ Porcella was crushed against the instrument panel and either unconscious or dead. Bedworth was thrown, still strapped in his seat out of the chopper.  His right anklebones were fractured and sticking through the nylon of his boot. SGT Mac was unhurt but thrown clear and unconscious.  I tried to free Porcella by cutting his seatbelt and moving him.  However, I was unable to. The chopper burned up and I suffered burns on my hands and buttocks and had my pants burned off.  While trying to free Porcella, some of the M-60 rounds cooked off and I took a round through the left shoulder and neck.  My left wrist and left collarbone were broken in the crash, and I lost or broke 7 upper teeth.

 

“Well, after we assessed the situation-we had no food or water, no flares, no first aid kit or survival gear.  We had two 38 pistols and 12 rounds, one seriously wounded WO co-pilot, a moderately wounded doctor, and an unhurt crew chief.  We thought we were close to Duc Pho and Hwy 1 and close to friendlies.  Bedworth and I decided to send Mac for help at first light.  We never saw him again. Later, 6 years later, COL Nevins told me that SGT Mac had been found about 10 miles from the crash site, shot and submerged in a rice paddy.  So on that night of 30 Nov.1967 I splinted Bedworth’s leg, with tree branches, made a lean-to from the door of the chopper, and we sat in the rain for three days and nights.  We just sat there.  We drank rainwater.  On the third morning, he died.  We could hear choppers hovering over our crash site and I fired most of the rounds from our 38’s trying to signal them, but cloud cover was so heavy and the weather so bad, they never found us. I took the compass from the burned out helicopter and tried to go down the mountain towards the east and, I believed, friendlies. My glasses were broken or lost in the crash and I couldn’t see well: the trail was slippery and I fell on rocks in a creek bed and cracked a couple of ribs.  I had my left arm splinted to my body with my army belt.  My pants were in tatters and burned.  I had broken teeth and a wound in my shoulder.  I hadn’t eaten or drunk anything but rainwater for three days.  I looked and felt like hell.  One of the cruel ironies of my life, you know how we all play the what if games, what if I hadn’t done this or that, well, when I finally reached the bottom of the mountain, I estimated 4 hours after first light, the weather cleared and I saw choppers hovering over the top.  I knew I couldn’t make it up the mountain, and had to take my chances.  But if I had only waited another 4 hours. I started walking up the trail and saw a man working in a rice paddy.  He came over and said Dai-wi, Bac-si- CPT Doctor.  He took me to a little hootch, sat me down and gave me a can of sweetened condensed milk and a C-ration can, can opener and spoon.  This stuff was like pudding and it billowed out of the can and was the best tasting stuff I ever had.  I felt very safe at that point.  One minute later, my host led a squad of 14 VC with two women and 12 rifles came upon me.  The squad leader said, ‘Surrenda no kill.’  He put his hands in the air and I couldn’t because my left arm was tied to my body.  He shot me with an M2 carbine and wounded me again in the neck. After I was apprehended, I showed my captors my Geneva Convention card, white with a red cross.  He tore it up.  He took my dogtags and medallion which had a St. Christopher’s (medal) on one side and a Star of David on the other, which my dad had given me before leaving. 

 

“They tied me with commo wire in a duck wing position, took my boots and marched me mostly at night for about 30 days.  The first day they took me to a cave, stripped my fatigue jacket off my back, tied me to a door and a teenage boy beat me with a bamboo rod.  I was told his parents were killed by American bombs. We rested by day, and marched by night.  I walked on rice paddy dikes, and couldn’t see a thing.  They would strike these little homemade lighters and by the sparks they made, see four or five steps.  I was always falling off the dikes into the rice paddy water and had to be pulled back up.  It was rough.  On the way, I saw men, women and kids in tiger cages, and bamboo jails.  I was taken to a camp, which must have been a medical facility as my wound was festering and full of maggots and I was sick.  A woman heated up a rifle-cleaning rod and gave me a bamboo stick to bite on.  She cauterized my wound through and through with the cleaning rod and I almost passed out with pain.  She then dressed the wound with mercurochrome and gave me two aspirin. I thought, what else can they do to me.  I was to find out. After walking for about a month through plains, then jungles and mountains, always west, they took me to a camp.  I had been expecting a POW camp like a stalag with Hogan’s Heroes; barbed wire, search lights, nice guards and red cross packages-and a hospital where I could work as a doctor.  They took me to a darkened hut with an oriental prisoner who was not American.  I didn’t know whether he was Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian or Chinese.  He spoke no English and was dying of TB.  He was emaciated, weak, sick and coughed all day and night.  I spent two days there and an English speaking Vietnamese officer came with a portable tape recorder and asked me to make a statement against the war.  I told him that I would rather die than speak against my country.  His words which were unforgettable and if I ever write a book, will be the title.  He said, ‘You will find that dying is very easy; living, living is the difficult thing.’ A few days later, in a driving rain, we started the final trek to camp. I was tied again, without boots, and we ascended higher and higher in the mountains.  I was weak and asked to stop often and rest.  We ate a little rice which the guards cooked. We actually needed ropes to traverse some of the steep rocks. 

 

“Finally, we got to POW camp one.  There were four American servicemen there, two from the US and two from Puerto Rico.  Three were Marines and one in the Army.  These guys looked horrible.  They wore black PJs, were scrawny with bad skin and teeth and beards and matted hair. The camp also had about 15 ARVNs who were held separately, across a bamboo fence. The camp was just a row of hootches made of bamboo with elephant grass roofs around a creek, with a hole in the ground for a latrine.  This was the first of five camps we lived in the South-all depressingly similar, although sometimes we had a separate building for a kitchen and sometimes we were able to pipe in water thru bamboo pipes from a nearby stream. I asked one of the Marines, the man captured longest and the leader, if escape was possible.  He told me that he and a special forces CPT had tried to escape the year before and the CPT had been beaten to death, while he had been put in stocks for 90 days, having to defecate in his hands and throw it away from him or lie in it.  The next day I was called before the camp commander and chastised and yelled at for suggesting escape.  My fellow POW then told me never to say anything to him that I didn’t want revealed, because the Vietnamese controlled his mind.  I threatened to kill him for informing on me.  He just smiled and said I would learn. Our captors promised us that if we made progress and understood the evils of the war they would release us.  And the next day, they released the two Puerto Ricans and 14 ARVNs POWs.  The people released wore red sashes and gave anti-war speeches. Just before the release, they brought in another 7 American POWs from the 196th Light Bde who were captured in the TET offensive of ’68.  I managed to write our names, ranks and serial numbers on a piece of paper and slip it to one of the PRs who was released.  They transported the information home and in Mar.1968 our families learned we had been captured alive.

 

“We were held in a series of jungle camps from Jan., 1968 to Feb., 1971. At this time, conditions were so bad and we were doing so poorly, that they decided to move us to North Vietnam.  They moved 12 of us.  In all, 27 Americans had come through the camp.  Five had been released and ten had died.  They died of their wounds, disease, malnutrition and starvation.  One was shot while trying to escape.   All but one died in my arms after a lingering, terrible illness.  Five West German nurses in a neutral nursing organization, called the Knights of Malta, similar to our own Red Cross, had been picked up (I always thought by mistake) by the VC in the spring of ’69.  Three of them died and the other two were taken to North Vietnam in 1969 and held until the end of the war. The twelve who made it were moved to North Vietnam on foot.  The fastest group, of which I was one, made it in 57 days.  The slowest group took about 180 days.  It was about 900km.  We walked thru Laos and Cambodia to the Ho Chi Minh trail and then up the trail across the DMZ until Vinh.  At Vinh, we took a train 180 miles to Hanoi in about 18 hours.  We traveled with thousands of ARVN POWs who had been captured in Lam Song 719, an ARVN incursion into Laos in 1971. Once in Hanoi, we stayed in an old French prison called The Citadel or as we said, The Plantation until Christmas ’72 when the X-mas bombing destroyed Hanoi.  Then we were moved to the Hoa Lo or Hanoi Hilton for about three months.  The peace was signed in Jan., ’73 and I came home on Mar. 16 with the fourth group.

 

“In the North we were in a rough jail.  There was a bucket in the windowless, cement room used as a latrine.  An electric bulb was on 24 hours.  We got a piece of bread and a cup of pumpkin soup each day and three cups of hot water.  We slept on pallets of wood and wore PJs and sandals and got three tailor made cigarettes per day.  We dry shaved and bathed with a bucket from a well twice per week, got out of the cell to carry our latrine bucket daily. Towards the end, they let us exercise.  There were no letters or packages for us from the south, but I understood some of the pilots who had been there awhile got some things.  In the summer, it was 120 in the cell and they gave us little bamboo fans.  But there were officers and a rank structure and communicate done through a tap code on the walls.  No one died.  It was hard duty, but not the grim struggle for survival which characterized daily life in the camps in the south.  In the north, I knew I would survive.  In the south, we often wanted to die.  I knew that when they ordered us north, I would make it. In the south, each day was a struggle for survival.  There were between three and twenty-four POWs at all times.  We ate three coffee cups of rice per day.  In the rainy season, the ration was cut to two cups.  I’m not talking about nice white rice, Uncle Ben’s.  I’m talking about rice that was red, rotten, and eaten out by bugs and rats, cached for years, shot through with rat feces and weevils.  We arose at 4, cooked rice on wood ovens made of mud.  We couldn’t burn a fire in the daytime or at night unless the flames and smoke were hidden, so we had these ovens constructed of mud which covered the fire and tunnels which carried the smoke away.  We did slave labor during the day, gathering wood, carrying rice, building hootches, or going for manioc, a starchy tuberous plant like a potato.  The Vietnamese had chickens and canned food.  We never got supplements unless we were close to dying then maybe some canned sardines or milk.  We died from lack of protein and calories.  We swelled up with what is called hungry edema and beriberi.  We had terrible skin disease, dysentery, and malaria.  Our compound was littered with piles of human excrement because people were just too sick or weak to make it to the latrine. We slept on one large pallet of bamboo.  So the sick vomited and defecated and urinated on the bed and his neighbor.  For the first two years, we had no shoes, clothes, mosquito nets or blankets.  Later, in late ’69, we got sandals, rice sacks for blankets, and a set of clothes.  We nursed each other and helped each other, but we also fought and bickered. 

 

“In a POW situation the best and the worst come out.   Any little flaw transforms itself into a glaring lack.  The strong can rule the weak.  There is no law and no threat of retribution.  I can report to you that the majority of the time, the Americans stuck together, helped each other and the strong helped the weak. But there were exceptions and sometimes the stronger took advantage of the weaker ones.  There was no organization, no rank structure. The VC forbid the men from calling me Doc, and made me the latrine orderly to break down rank structure.  I was officially forbidden from practicing medicine. But I hoarded medicine, had the men fake malaria attacks and dysentery so we could acquire medicine and keep it until we needed it.  Otherwise, it might not come.  I tried to advise the men about sanitary conditions, about nutrition and to keep clean, active and eat everything we could; rats, bugs, leaves, etc.  We had some old rusty razor blades, and I did minor surgery, lancing boils, removing foreign bodies, etc. with them, but nothing major.

 

“At one time, in the summer of ’68, I was offered the chance to work in a VC hospital and receive a higher ration.  The NVA Political officer, who made the offer and was there to indoctrinate us, said it had been done in WW II.  I didn’t believe him and didn’t want to do it anyway, so I refused and took my chances.  Later, upon return, I learned that American Army doctors in Europe in WW II, had indeed worked in hospitals treating German soldiers.  But I’m glad now I did what I did. We had a 1st Sergeant who had been in Korea and in WW II.  He died in the fall of ’68 and we were forbidden from calling him ‘Top’.  The VC broke him fast.  I was not allowed to practice medicine unless a man was 30 minutes away from dying, then they came down with their little bottles of medicine and said ‘Cure him!’  At one point we were all dying of dysentery and I agreed to sign a propaganda statement in return for chloromycetin, a strong antibiotic, to treat our sick.  Most of us were seriously ill, although, a few never got sick, maintained their health and their weight.  I never figured it out. When a man died, we buried him in a bamboo coffin and said some words over his grave and marked it with a pile of rocks.  I was forced to sign a death certificate in Vietnamese.  I did this 13 times.  The worst period was the fall of ’68.  We lost five men between Sept. and Christmas. 

 

“Shortly before the end of Nov., I thought I was going to lose my mind.  All of these fine young strong men were dying.  It would have been so easy to live, just nutrition, fluids, and antibiotics.  I knew what to do, but had no means to help them.  I was depressed and didn’t care whether I lived or died myself. At this time, we were simply starving to death.  As an example of how crazy we were, we decided to kill the camp commander’s cat.  Several of us killed it, and skinned it.  We cut off its head and paws and it dressed out to about three pounds. We were preparing to boil it when one of the guards came down and asked us what was going on.  We told him we had killed a weasel by throwing a rock.  The guards raised chickens and the chickens were always being attacked by weasels.  Well, the guard, who was a Montagnard, an aborigine, found the feet, and knew it was the cat.  The situation became very serious.  The guards and cadre were mustered..it was about 3 am.  The prisoners were lined up and a Marine and I were singled out to be beaten. He was almost beaten to death.  I was beaten badly, tied up with commo wire very tightly (I thought my hands would fall off and knew I would never do surgery again) for over a day.  I had to bury the cat.  And I was disappointed I didn’t get to eat it.  That’s how crazy I was. Shortly thereafter, the Marine who had been beaten so badly died.  He didn’t have to.  He simply gave up, like so many.   Marty Seligman, a professor of psychology at University of Pennsylvania has written a book about these feelings called Learned Helplessness and Death.  The Marine simply lay on his bamboo bed, refused to eat, wash or get up and died.  So many did this.  We tried to force them to eat, and to be active, but nothing worked.  It was just too hard.  This Marine wavered in and out of coma for about two weeks.  It was around Thanksgiving, the end of November. The rains had been monstrous and our compound was a muddy morass littered with piles of feces. David Harker of Lynchburg, VA and I sat up with him all night.  He hadn’t spoken coherently for over a week.  Suddenly, he opened his eyes and looked right at me.  He said, ‘Mom, dad..I love you very much.  Box 10, Dubberly, Louisiana.’ 

 

“That was Nov. ’68. We all escaped the camp in the south.  Five were released as propaganda gestures.  Ten Americans and three Germans died and twelve Americans and two Germans made it back.  I am the only POW who was captured before the end of ’67 to survive that camp. I came back Mar. 16, 1973 and stayed in the hospital in Valley Forge, PA for a month getting fixed up with several operations and then went on convalescent leave.  The first thing I did was go to Dubberly, LA and see the Marine’s father.  His parents had divorced while he was captured.  I went to see five of the families of those that died and called the others on the phone. It was a terrible experience, but there is some good to come from it. I learned a lot.  I learned about the human spirit.  I learned about confidence in yourself.  I learned about loyalty to your country and its ideals and to your friends and comrades.  No task would ever be too hard again.  I had renewed respect for what we have and swore to learn my country’s history in depth (I have done it) and to try to contribute to my community and set an example for my children and employees. I stayed on active duty until ’77 when I was honorably discharged and entered the  reserve from which I retired an as O-6 in ’86.  I have a busy medical practice down in Florida and been remarkably successful.  I am active in my community in a number of ways and despite being drenched with Agent Orange a number of times and having some organs removed, have enjoyed great health. Except for some arthritis and prostate trouble, I’m doing great.  So I was lucky..very lucky and I’m so thankful for that.  I’m thankful for my life and I have no bitterness.  I feel so fortunate to have survived and flourished when so many braver, stronger and better trained men did not.”

Never Forgotten

 Related: Operation Homecoming

The Hanoi Taxi (tail #66-0177) was retired from active service in May 2006. She was the last of the 285 C-141s built by Lockheed to leave active service. She flew 100 POWs out of Hanoi on 12 February 1973, some of them tasting freedom for the first time in six years. Each POW put their shot-down date on the face of the oxygen panel during their flight to Clark AB in the Philippines. For her retirement ceremony, the POWs she brought home were brought back for the ceremony and one last flight by this gracious lady. Most of them are old men now but their enthusiasm, emotions, and excitement were evident during this flight and retirement ceremony. She was then flown to Dayton, OH where she will spend her final days in the Air Force Museum.

Related article: Interview – Sydney Schanberg, author of Beyond the Killing Fields – Vietnam magazine/Historynet

“Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Sydney Schanberg’s experience as a New York Times reporter in Cambodia as it fell to the Khmer Rouge in 1975, and that of his colleague Dith Pran, was immortalized in the 1984 film The Killing Fields. As a reporter and columnist after the war, Schanberg became the most prominent journalist to extensively investigate allegations that American POWs had been knowingly left in Laos in 1973 by a Nixon administration desperate to end the war. In a provocative, evidence-laden 2008 article, Schanberg described Senator John McCain’s role in the POW controversy and succinctly laid out the documentary record of what he believes has been a decades-long effort to conceal the facts…”
 
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We Were Soldiers…

Ia Drang – Where Battlefield Losses Convinced Ho, Giap and McNamara the U.S. Could Never Win By Joseph Galloway – History Net, Vietnam magazine – Posted 15 Feb 11

“…What happened when the American cavalrymen and the People’s Army of Vietnam (PAVN) collided head-on in the Ia Drang had military and civilian leaders in Washington, Saigon and Hanoi scrambling to assess what it meant, and what had been learned.

“Both sides understood that the war had changed suddenly and dramatically in those few days. At higher levels, both sides claimed victory in the Ia Drang, although those who fought and bled and watched good soldiers die all around them were loath to use so grand a word for something so tragic and terrible that would give people their nightmares for a long time, or a lifetime…”

Joe Galloway at 2008 Spur reunion - Pam Young photo

 

Read: McNamara Memo

Courtesy of the Army Times

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Honoring a Hero of Lima Site 85

Tribute – Sgt. Richard Etchberger, Who Received Medal of Honor Posthumously for Heroics at Secret Site in 1968History Net, Vietnam magazine – Posted 15 Feb 11

“…In March 1968, Etchberger and 15 airmen—along with two CIA officers and a forward air controller—were living at Lima Site 85 in Laos. This was a highly secret radar facility needed by the USAF to direct strike missions in Laos and North Vietnam…”

The building of Lima Site 85 in Phou Pha Thi, Laos was for air tactical support for the Vietnam War. The tragedy at this site was the single largest ground combat loss of USAF personnel during the Vietnam conflict. Video courtesy of CAT/Air America, University of Texas at Dallas.
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North Platte Canteen

Submitted by Robert Fisher
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Now They’re Feeling Guilty

  

 
 
 
 

Courtesy of Roger Young

The “I-missed-Vietnam” Guilt 

“The day I turned 19, I went down for my physical and had my first and only experience of Army life. I took with me a letter from Dr. Murphy, my childhood doctor, describing in uncompromising detail the asthma that had been a major part of my life up to 16.” 

Thus begins an article by Christopher Buckley in the September issue of Esquire magazine – an article that should spur millions of members of a generation of American men to question a part of their lives that they had thought they put behind them long ago. Buckley – the son of conservative columnist William F. Buckley Jr. – describes in the article how he had received a medical deferment from the Army, and thus how he had escaped going to Vietnam. 

The article is titled “Viet Guilt, ” and it addresses itself to those millions of young American men who did not go to Vietnam – and who are beginning to realize, all these years later, that by not going they may have proved something about their own lack of courage – their own, lack of manhood, if you will – that ought to make them very uncomfortable. Enough words have been devoted to the moral issues of the war. The point that Chris Buckley makes is that, if the truth were really to be told, most of the men who managed to stay home from Vietnam did not do so for reasons of morality alone. Their real reason for not going was that they did not want to die, did not want to get shot at. And they found out that there were many ways to avoid Vietnam. Young men of my generation got out of Vietnam because of college deferments, because of medical deferments, because of having a “lucky” number in the Selective Service birthday lottery that was initiated toward the end of the war. Three million men of fighting age went to Indochina during the Vietnam War; 16 million men of fighting age did not. 

Buckley was one of the men who did not – and I was, too. Reading his article made me realize the truth of the emotions I have been feeling lately about that particular subject. I sense a strong feeling – “shame” is not too strong a word – among many men who did not go to Vietnam, and perhaps now is the time to bring that feeling out into the open. 

Those of us who did not go may have pretended that we held some moral superiority over those who did, but we must have known – even back then – that that was largely sham. A tiny, tiny minority served jail terms – the rest of us avoided the war through easier methods. The men who went to Vietnam were no more involved with the politics of the war than we were. They were different from us in only two important ways: They hadn’t figured out a successful way to get out of going, and they had a certain courage that we lacked. Not “courage” as defined the way we liked to define it; not “courage” in the sense of opposing the government’s policies in Vietnam. But courage in an awful, day-to-day sense; courage in being willing to be over there while most of their generation stayed home. When I meet men my age who are Vietnam veterans, I find myself reacting the same way that Chris Buckley indicates he does. 

I find myself automatically feeling a little lacking. “I have friends who served in Vietnam…” Buckley writes. “They all saw death up close every day, and many days dealt with it themselves. They’re married, happy, secure, good at what they do; they don’t have nightmares and they don’t shoot up gas stations with M-16s. Each has a gentleness I find rare in most others, and beneath it a spiritual sinew that I ascribe to their experience in the war. I don’t think I’ll ever have what they have, the aura of I have been weighed on the scales and have not been found wanting, and my sense at this point is that I will always feel the lack of it…”

 I think many of us are just beginning to realize that. I know when I meet those men of my generation who did serve in Vietnam, I automatically feel less worthy than they are; yes, less of a man, if you want to use that phrase. Those of us who did not have to go to Vietnam may have felt, at the time, that we were getting away with something; may have felt, at the time, that we were the recipients of a particular piece of luck that had value beyond price. But now, I think, we realize that by not having had to go we lost forever the chance to learn certain things about ourselves that only men who have been in war together will ever truly know. 

Our fathers learned those things in World War II; our sons, God forbid, may learn them in some future conflict. But we – those of us who did not go – managed to avoid something that would have helped form us into different people than we are now. Buckley writes “by not putting on uniforms, we forfeited what might have been the ultimate opportunity, in increasingly self-obsessed times, of making the ultimate commitment to something greater than ourselves. The survival of comrades.” But I think it may go even beyond that; I think it may go to the very definition of our manhood. I know that when I meet a man who, it turns out, has served in Vietnam, part of me wonders whether he is able to read my mind. 

I don’t know how widespread this feeling is among men of my generation who didn’t go; but I can testify that, at least for some of us, it’s there, all right. 

WELCOME HOME VETERANS!

Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Vietnam combat veteran and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has often expressed anger about the class gap between those who fought in Vietnam and those who did not.

“I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units,” he wrote in his 1995 autobiography, My American Journey. “Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country.”
 

By James Bamford for USA TODAY
17 September 2002

 

 

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