Congress WAS Responsible for Defeat in Indochina

In response to an article, Ken Hughes: The Myth That Congress Cut Off Funding for South Vietnam

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I don’t doubt Mr. Hughes sincerity, and as a technical matter he is correct that Congress did not totally cut off assistance to South Vietnam in 1975; but as a scholar who has been studying and writing about Vietnam for more than forty-five years (who was the last congressional staff member to leave Vietnam during the April 1975 final evacuation), I can assure you that the U.S. Congress was the most decisive factor in the Communist conquest of South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia in 1975.

To keep things in context, it is important to note that in the post-war era, Hanoi has repeatedly admitted that its leaders made a decision on May 19, 1959, to open the Ho Chi Minh trail and send tens of thousands of soldiers and countless tons of equipment and supplies south to “liberate” South Vietnam by armed force. That was more than 5 years before the U.S. decided to send combat units to Vietnam, and our purpose was precisely the purpose for which we sent troops into South Korea in 1950 — to uphold the non-aggression principles of the UN Charter and oppose the expansion of Communism by force.

Viet Cong defectors used to laugh and express shock at how successful their campaign to portray the “National Liberation Front” to the west as something other than a classic Leninist “front” organization had been. (Hanoi actually published an English-language translation of the proceedings of the Third Party Congress in 1960, including the resolution it approved calling for “our people” in south Vietnam to set up a front under Party leadership three months before the NLF was allegedly formed by non-Communist resistance leaders in Ben Tre.) American “scholars” who fell for this ruse should be ashamed of themselves.

We also need to keep in mind that the tremendous increase in POL costs resulting from the Arab oil embargo (OPEC raised oil prices 70% in late 1973) meant that to sustain South Vietnam at 1973 levels aid for subsequent years would have to be substantially greater. In reality, in 1975 Saigon got about 20% of the aid we provided in 1973.

I traveled extensively through South Vietnam in 1968, 1970, 1971, and 1974, and I witnessed the effects of the aid cuts in ’74 and when I returned in ’75. Westmoreland claims that South Vietnamese soldiers were authorized one hand grenade per man per month, 85 rounds of ammo per month (about 7 seconds on full-auto in an M-16 — although in reality one would have to change magazines 3-5 times to fire that much ammo). Put another way, that provided about 3 rounds of ammo per day — ironically, the same amount defectors told me they had for the AK-47s following the highly successful 1970 Cambodian incursion, when they were instructed to put away their AK’s and dig up their old M-1 rifles and carbines, FALs, and the other relatively primitive weapons.) Each ARVN 105 mm howitzer was allocated 4 rounds of ammo per day, with only 2 rounds per 155 mm. Many of their tanks, helicopters, and fixed-wing aircraft were totally useless because of a lack of spare parts and/or fuel. And while Congress was cutting aid to Saigon, Moscow and Beijing were pouring aid into North Vietnam to fuel the war.

The United States made a solemn commitment by treaty in 1955 (when the SEATO Treaty drafted the previous year was ratified by Ike with almost unanimous advice and consent of the Senate–1 senator voted ‘nay’) to come to the aid of any of the “Protocol States” of that treaty requesting assistance in defense of their freedom from Communist aggression. Those “Protocol States” were the States of Vietnam [later the Republic of Vietnam or South Vietnam], Laos, and Cambodia. In August 1964, Congress enacted the Southeast Asian Resolution by a combined vote of 504-2 (a 99.6% majority). John F. Kennedy pledged to the world: “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” Ironically, the leaders of the “save South Vietnam” drive in the mid-’50s were liberal, internationalist Democrats like Kennedy, Mansfield, and Fulbright.

The congressional action that truly sounded the death knell for South Vietnam and “snatched defeat from the jaws of victory” was not simply cutting aid, but passing a law (the FY 1973 Dep’t of State Auth. Act, Pub. L. 93-126, 87 Stat. 451) that provided:

“Notwithstanding any other provision of law, on or after August 15, 1973, no funds heretofore or hereafter appropriated may be obligated or expended to finance the involvement of United States military forces in hostilities in or over or from off the shores of North Vietnam, Laos, or Cambodia, unless specifically authorized hereafter by Congress.”

As a constitutional scholar who wrote my doctoral dissertation of the separation of national security powers, I believe this provision was flagrantly unconstitutional. But it guaranteed Hanoi and its allies that the United States was not going to fulfill its solemn pledge to defend these victims of aggression, and Pham Van Dong (Hanoi’s Premier) announced that the Americans would not come back “even if we offered them candy.” So Moscow and Beijing greatly increased their aid, Hanoi left only the 325th Division to defend the Hanoi area and sent the rest of its Army behind columns of Soviet-made tanks to conquer South Vietnam (and Laos and Cambodia, the other Protocol States we had repeatedly pledged to protect) in a conventional military invasion.

I worked in the Senate (as national security adviser to Sen. Robert P. Griffin, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee) during the final period and sat through the public and closed hearings. I listened as Sen. Mike Mansfield assured some of his colleagues that he had just spoken with Sihanouk (who was in Beijing) by phone and had been assured that when the Khmer Rouge (“Red Cambodians”) seized power in Phnom Penh only a small number of leaders would be killed.

The reason I was back in Vietnam in 1975 was to assist with the orphan lift. The governor of Michigan had declared an “open door” policy, saying Michigan would find homes for any orphans we could rescue. While others in the group worked with South Vietnamese orphanages (ultimately abandoning them and fleeing to Hong Kong in fear), I worked on trying to arrange to rescue orphans in Cambodia on the empty C130 aircraft that each day flew rice into Cambodia. (http://www.virginia.edu/cnsl/images/Turner-CambodiaCable.jpg.) I was too late.

The consequences of the congressional decision to betray John Kennedy’s noble promise and the treaty and statutory pledges we had made to protect South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia are clear. An estimated 100,000 South Vietnamese were executed, as many as 250,000 more died in “reeducation camps,” and another 45-50,000 died in the “New Economic Zones. Using figures provided by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, an estimated 420,000 “boat people” died at sea fleeing the Communist tyranny in search of freedom. The best figures I’ve seen on Cambodia come from the Yale University Cambodian Genocide Project: 1.7 million Cambodians (more than 20% of the entire population) were killed by Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge. A January 2004 article on the “killing fields” in NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC TODAY noted that “bullets were too precious to use for executions. Axes, knives and bamboo sticks were far more common. As for children, their murderers simply battered them against trees.”

What Congress did in 1973-75 was shameful — among the darkest and most immoral years in the history of U.S. foreign policy. It led directly to Soviet intervention in Angola (and yes, Mr. Hughes will be correct if he notes that began about 1962 — but after we betrayed the non-Communist peoples of Indochina the Soviets started sending in what eventually became more than 400,000 Cuban “volunteers,” promoting a “civil war” that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. The Soviets authorized “armed struggle” in Central America that cost countless more lives, and an estimated million people died when Moscow invaded Afghanistan.

In the end, as the PENTAGON PAPERS confirmed to anyone who bothered to actually read them (http://www.virginia.edu/cnsl/pdf/Turner-Myths.pdf), the “peace movement” and congressional critics of the war were mistaken almost across the board in their arguments. And the human consequences of their betrayal of America’s honor were catastrophic.

Again, I’m not unhappy with Mr. Hughes. But from my perspective as someone who has followed this issue for nearly half-a-century, efforts to claim that Congress was not responsible for allowing the Communists to conquer South Vietnam and its neighbors are as off the mark as efforts to deny the Holocaust.

The American people were horribly misled by the media about what was actually transpiring in Indochina. The 1968 Tet Offensive was a tremendous military defeat for the Communists, and after the May Offensive of that same year the southern “Viet Cong” had ceased to exist as a serious fighting force. Regular North Vietnamese PAVN soldiers took over the fighting, and with only U.S. air support the South Vietnamese successfully blocked their 1972 Spring Offensive. As Prof. John Lewis Gaddis noted in Foreign Affairs in early 2005: “Historians now acknowledge that American counter-insurgency operations in Vietnam were succeeding during the final years of that conflict . . . .” Many of us who were there at the time saw that first hand. We broke Hanoi’s will in the Linebacker II operation, and there was a good chance that had we retained the option of returning with our B-52s on Guam we could have enforced the Paris Peace Accords. Hanoi had run out of SAM-2 missiles, and neither Moscow nor Beijing were willing to resupply them militarily — UNTIL they saw Congress throw in the towel.

If Mr. Hughes or anyone else would like to publicly debate this issue, I can be reached at (434) 924-4083

Respectfully,

(Prof.) Robert F. Turner, SJD
Center for National Security Law
University of Virginia School of Law
bobturner@virginia.edu

 

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Eternal Peace – USS Arizona

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Dinky Dau Blues!

Courtesy of John “Waldo” Pepper

Time for a little humor, courtesy of John “Waldo” Pepper, Spur President: (Music file)

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Allan LaGrange requested that we post “The Draft Dodger Rag” which I located on YouTube:

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Videos From Our Wall in DC

The following videos were submitted by our Spur President, John “Waldo” Pepper.

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Mary “Edie” McCoy Meeks, Army Nurse, speaks at ceremony commemmorating the 25th anniversary of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 2007:

Names are still going up on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall in Washington. On this day, it was Lt. Col. William L. Taylor. The AP’s Lee Powell captures the precision and dedication behind making an inscription on the Wall. (May 4th 2010):

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Welcome Home Vietnam Vets Day – March 30th 2012

Submitted to me by Lois G., a wonderful lady here in Washington state that has worked with the author, Debbie Lee below supporting our troops during the War on Terrorism.

Debbie Lee is a Gold Star Mother of the first Navy Seal to be killed in Iraq – Bear

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We at AMW have dedicated our lives to our Veterans and the families of the fallen and not a day goes by that we don’t shake a hand and say thank you to our heroes. Often when I run into a Vietnam Vet and shake his hand, give him a hug and express my gratitude I notice a tear in their eye and hear them say “You are the first person who has said thank you.”

I am so angered when I hear that! I know that when our Vets came home in the 60/s and 70’s they were treated so poorly. Many have told me they had orders to not wear their uniforms when they came home from the combat zone. We read accounts and hear stories of Vets who were spit on, called baby killers, or attacked because of their service to this country. There were no ticker tape parades and celebrations, they had to hide the fact that they had obeyed their governments call into combat, many never spoke of their heroic efforts. It is disgraceful that 40 years later we still have vets who have not heard the words, thank you for serving. It causes me to be more determined to keep doing what I am doing but to also encourage others to do the same.

As an American on behalf of our nation I want to say to our Veitnam Vets, I am so very sorry!

Please enjoy this video that we have prepared to say THANK YOU AND WELCOME HOME.

March 30th was declared by our Congress as Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day. Please reach out to the Vietnam Vets that you know and show your gratitude. Marc’s last letter home he wrote that we could change our world by doing more random acts of kindness. You can read that amazing inspiring letter at www.americasmightywarriors.org  After reading his letter I hope you are inspired to do a random act of kindness for a Veitnam Vet on March 30th to thank them and honor Marc’s memory.

Please share this with your contact lists and social media so we can imapct and honor as many Vets as we can, they deserve it.

Ever Grateful,

Debbie Lee

Thanks go to Dave Perkins for producing the video and Rocky Lynn for his amazing song:

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From the Spur Archives

Courtesy of John “Waldo” Pepper, Spur President:

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Top 10 Low Pass Flybys of All Time

YouTube video via a fellow Vietnam veteran, enjoy! – Bear

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Official Vietnam Pocket Guide

From a fellow Vietnam vet you might enjoy! – Bear

PDF file: Vietnam Pocket Guide

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Scott Evans, Spur 17 Slideshow

Photos courtesy of Scott Evans, Spur 17, 1970-1971 Scout pilot.

Sadly we were notified in July 2015 that Scott had passed away in 2014. Scott’s obituary

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Troops at DFW March 14th 2012 – Last Day

Submitted by Bill Reynolds, Spur 16.

March 14, 2012 was the last day that troops were going through DFW for R&R. Below is a YouTube video celebrating that occasion. Over 480,000 troops have gone through DFW over the years.

“This video was taken on March 14, 2012. It was of the last R and R flight coming to DFW International. We had in excess of 3,000 people there including several Tuskogee Airmen, and Congressman Sam Johnson a former POW of 7 years. We also had the Sergeant Major of the Army of which there have only been 14. The Commanding General for Ft. Hood was there as were numerous other General Officers. The one speech that stands out in this video is the one given by recent Medal of Honor recipient, Staff Sergeant Salvatore A. Giunta. I can’t believe he did not have notes or a teleprompter.”

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Welcome Home Vietnam LA Event 2012

Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day Los Angeles – Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:00 noon to 5:00 pm – Exhibits, Resources, Mlitary Displays, Memorial Wall, Vendors.

Veteran’s Memorial Park, 13000 Sayre, Street, Sylmar, CA 91342

(Heroes of Life Inc. ) For more information on Sponsorship, or Exhibit Opportunities, Please call Paula Coleman (818) 890-5082

Vocals and lyrics by Jack Murphy, Purple Heart recipient. Served with the 199th Light Infantry in 1969.

Video:

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An Immigrant’s Story – Quang Nguyen

“To all you Vietnam vets out there, you are my heroes…”

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Full story posted at: prescottnews.com

 

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The Nui Ba Den Massacres – 1968

Very long and detailed accounts of the battles in 1968, including photos and maps.  Our gunships were involved. – Spur 3, Chuck Ouilline:

Nui Ba Den Massacres

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Death from Above: An Khe Army Airfield, 1st Air Cav, FAC and other stories (Vietnam 1960′s)

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A typical day at the Tan Son Nhut Airport in Saigon (1968)

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