This was not a proud moment for the South Vietnamese military. The North Vietnamese were advancing southward toward Da Nang, and Saigon fell a few days later. Chances are few of these deserters made it out of the country.
Chuck Oualline, Spur 3
This was not a proud moment for the South Vietnamese military. The North Vietnamese were advancing southward toward Da Nang, and Saigon fell a few days later. Chances are few of these deserters made it out of the country.
Chuck Oualline, Spur 3
A long but very interesting read provided in PDF format by Arkansas Tech University. Adobe Reader required:
Fellow Spurs and dear friends, Pam and I wanted to share this with all of you. The Moving Wall was here in Bellevue, Wa. this past weekend and we wanted to share the experience.
Our very special thanks to Lois Gustafson and all the volunteers that helped put this all together. Having helped assemble & disassemble this very Wall in 2001 at the very same cemetery, we know just how much hard work and dedication it takes to put on this event.
At the close is a special dedication to Nathan Pulliam’s grandson-in-law who died in Afghanistan on 25 Jun 2011. The West Point dedication reads in part:
1Lt. Dimitri A. Del Castillo, 24, of Tampa, Florida died June 25, at Kunar province, Afghanistan of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 35th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. He was on the radio calling in support when he was hit. He kept working on the support until he died with the handset in his hand.
We placed the picture of Dimitri with the roses at Panel 32E below the names of fallen Spurs Mehl & McNair mentioned in Col. Pulliam’s 4th of July address.
Of special note was our local Vietnamese who significantly contributed to hosting the Wall this time around. Without their help it would not have been possible. They were extremely gracious to all the veterans.
Our best,
Bear & Pam
Produced by my wife, Pam, honoring the women, both military and civilian who served during the Vietnam war. Pam served in the Navy from 1970-1974 and was assigned to CINCPAC Joint Command and worked on Operation Homecoming for our POWs.
Here’s some more background by Pam on the civilian women who were killed during Vietnam:
http://northwestvets.com/op-baby.htm
And more on the nurses who perished:
Roger,
As long as you guys are posting videos, here’s one from Australia. This is a version of ‘I was only 19’ that incorporates some older vets that I think some of us might identify with.
The song by Redgum called ‘I was only 19’ has an interesting history of the song writer spending a long time with a vet, going through pictures, listening to stories and finally writing the song. The story of how it evolved and was accepted by the vets is as interesting as the song itself.
Terry Shulze, Spur 34 and 14
httpvh://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmgwx77osw
PDF: Understanding PTSD – VA
Spur 38 Gets an Opportunity to Get Back in the Saddle
Eat your hearts out fellow Spurs!
I wanted to share this short story about being able to be on the ground floor of an AH-1G, 5 year restoration project that is just about to take flight!
Rick Clemons, HMFIC of “Cactus Aviation”, Carson City Nevada, who, besides being an avid aviation warbird collector and aviator, hasn’t quit his day job as President, Specline Manufacturing www.specline.com .
Somehow Rick has time to scour the internet for interesting aircraft projects. Like all fixed wing pilots, he started thinking about “Real” aircraft and in addition to being intrigued with the Vietnam era efforts of Army Aviation; Rick decided to pick up some helicopters to add to his stable of amazing air machines.
He certainly picked the right one, the AH-1 Cobra.
I’ve known of Rick’s passion for aircraft for some time and he found out that I was in the area, called me to ask what I thought about helping to get the project going. I was obviously ecstatic about the prospect and told him that I’d come down to his Carson City (CXP) hangar and take a look.
When I first saw her, I recognized the Cobra airframe but I was doubtful that it would ever fly again. It was in really rough shape and missing a lot of very essential things like: an engine and main rotor blades plus about a million other parts. But Rick is a very tenacious guy with a crew of aircraft mechanics that really have their hearts in these projects. Not to mention a terrific track record of turning one man’s junk into awesomely beautiful objects of flying art! www.specline.com
Rick, through his unwavering late night internet capabilities, found major components and spare parts from all over the world. Transmission from Germany; a sundry of locations for other components, parts and pieces, from people and manufacturers.
The best history that we can reconstruct so far is that the aircraft was stationed at Ft. Campbell (1980s) and eventually was made part of the Cobra inventory for the Texas Army National Guard. After production as a “G” model it was converted to “Q”, “S” and finally as an “F” model. The Cobra ended up in Florida with an enthusiast who couldn’t do much with it and finally sold it to Rick.
I contacted Dave Adams, an old 2nd ACR, and Germany Cobra buddy of mine. Dave is now editor of the VHPA magazine. Dave and I corresponded with the king of all Army Helicopter Vietnam era VHPA data Gary Roush. Gary told us that the Cobra was never assigned to a Vietnam unit. Incidentally, if there are still Silver Spurs out there who are not members of VHPA, you need to get with it and join! www.VHPA.com Like Bear and other great Spurs, they have done a terrific job keeping the memories, history and information available to us procrastinators. They are all special folks!
So, I was in! What a pleasure two weeks ago when I received the call that 70-15945 was ready for an initial engine run!
I am very fortunate to have continued flying after A Troop. I have spent 40+ combined years of Active and National Guard service retiring in 2009 as a CW5, as well as flying commercially; surpassing 15,000 hours of flying helicopters and airplanes. The last time I flew a Cobra was in 2006 for the movies “Courage Under Fire” and Con-Air (Andy Warhol’s “15 minutes of fame”). But when I strapped into this baby to start it up for the first checks, I was transformed. My 60 year old body, with its 19 year old mind was right back in Quan Loi! It is truly an amazing feeling and experience. “Riding a bicycle” comes to mind! But you all know what I mean!
Currently we are working with the FAA FSDO in Reno and are about to obtain certification as “Experimental/Exhibition”. After we complete the test flight phases, we will proudly fly her to the Reno Air Races this year (Sept 14-18 www.airrace.org ) and will have a static spot in the “Heritage Classic Warbirds” section. The 250,000 annual Air Race spectators will have an opportunity to get close, remember and enjoy the helicopter while on display.
So enjoy the pictures Bear has posted, I’ll send some additional information after the races. In the mean time, if you have ever run across 70-15945 and can help fill in the blanks, I’d appreciate it. Certainly not least, thanks for allowing me to share this great experience with my brothers! I certainly owe you all for being an essential part of my conscious and subconscious world and will be thinking about my fellow Spurs while I’m out yanking and banking!
Best Regards,
Mike
Spur 38, CW5, AV (Ret)
Cell: 775.720.8417
Photos Courtesy of Spur 38, Mike Billow:

Cpt. Robert E. DeCelle was a fellow Spur Scout pilot who was KIA on 18 Feb ’71. The following article is submitted by fellow Spur, Mike Billow from the Reno Gazette Journal:
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Reno Gazette Journal 10 June, 2011
Lake Tahoe Relay is one family’s ‘labor of love’
11:17 PM, Jun. 9, 2011 |

Robert DeCelle, the creator of the Lake Tahoe Relay, measures out the route before the 1965 event. / Provided to the RGJ
Written by Chris Murray
DeCelle Memorial Lake Tahoe Relay
What: A seven-person, 72-mile relay race around Lake Tahoe.
Where: The race begins in South Lake Tahoe near the junctions of Highway 89 and Highway 50 at the “Y.”
When: Begins at 7 a.m. Saturday.
Who: 117 teams are expected to run at the event; each runner runs one leg between 8 to 12 miles.
Cause: All proceeds go to fighting youth obesity.
Every year in early June, April Carter and her family gather for a reunion at Lake Tahoe.
But unlike most family reunions, this one isn’t just about catching up and reminiscing about old times. It’s largely about work. And a race.
That race is the DeCelle Memorial Lake Tahoe Relay, which celebrates its 47th anniversary this year and is the oldest distance relay race in the United States.
“We’re just trying to carry on the tradition,” Carter said.
Carter’s father, Robert DeCelle, created the seven-person, 72-mile relay that circles Lake Tahoe in 1965. It’s steadily grown and an expected 117 teams and 820 runners will line up when the race begins at 7 a.m. Saturday.
DeCelle served as the administrative assistant for U.S. Olympic teams in 1968 and 1972 and often trained athletes at Tahoe’s high altitudes. It was then that he decided to create this race and make it his labor of love.
The relay got the title “DeCelle Memorial” in 1971 when DeCelle’s son, Robert Jr., was killed in battle during the Vietnam War. And when Robert Sr. died following a heart attack two weeks after the 1997 race, his family had to decide whether to continue their father’s race or let it die.
“When he passed away, we had a family meeting and we said, ‘Who wants to step up and take the race over?’ I was the stupid person who said I would do it,” Carter joked. “It takes a year’s worth of work. It takes a lot of time. I don’t think I knew how much time it took until I became the race director.
“But I think he’d be really proud that we’ve kept it going. The timers and all of the volunteers are mostly family members. I think we only have two timers who aren’t part of the family. The rest of the volunteers are his grandchildren or great-grandchildren. We’ve basically made this our annual family reunion.”
And it’s not just the volunteers who are part of the family. Carter said she’s known some of the runners who participate in the race for decades.
One of those runners is Steve Paski, who said he’s competed in all but two of the Lake Tahoe Relays since 1985.
Recently there has been an ongoing conversation about Agent Orange exposure on our Spur e-mail net. We have information on this subject posted on our Spur Bulletin Board at:
http://northwestvets.com/spurs/spur-bb.htm#support
Here are two recent important messages that came to me via e-mail which are very relevant:
From Jim English:
I think veterans of Vietnam should be aware that those who have ischemic heart disease (coronary artery disease) are presumed by the VA to be eligible for agent orange compensation. I’m beginning to receive 30% disability payments for ischemic heart disease due to service in Vietnam and I think there are others out there also eligible for such monthly payments.
I served in the 575th TC Detachment in Long Binh and Di An June ’68 to June ’69. As I remember we got sprayed by the Air Force on a regular basis in Long Binh and judging from the few green plants we saw in Long Binh it was probably agent orange. Also, there was a big depot in Bien Hoa which stored huge amounts of the stuff. Bien Hoa is only a few miles from Long Binh.
From Bob Himrod:
Comment…..the VA, as I understand it, pretty much approves claims for misc. cancers (skin & others) simply for Vietnam service. It must be remembered, you didn’t have to be sprayed to be exposed to AO. We showered with river water, it was in rain droplets and it could be assumed, generally, it was everywhere because it was airborne applied by aircraft. Our association (Vietnam Dog Handler’s Assoc.) was in the process to testify before Congress about the higher incidences of testicular cancer among K-9s in Vietnam Vs. K-9s assigned in Europe. This was during the Clinton Administration. Clinton signed into law, that six or so cancers, were considered service-connected simply by being in Vietnam without having to prove being sprayed by AO. I have a couple of my platoon members who have prostate cancer. That too is being rated by the VA as 100% disability. It’s VERY important for any Veteran who believes he’s medical condition is service connected, to file a claim with the VA ASAP. If your claim is approved, payment will be back dated to when you filed your claim. It takes time to get your claim processed. The Veterans line is getting longer. It’s also wise to use a Service Officer from the VFW, American Legion, DAV etc so your paperwork gets done right the first time. They know the drill. I hope this helps in adding to the discussion. Remember, YOU EARN IT.
Bear / Clayton :
Please see the correspondence from the National Archives [below]. Charles Stutzman and I are contemplating visiting there prior to the Reunion next April. However, if someone resides in the Maryland area, perhaps they would be willing to spend some time there researching the records to see what “official” documentation is available on A Troop. (We suspect this is Squadron info and not specific logs, etc of our Spurs).
Please send out a request for a volunteer to visit the Archives.
Bill McCalister, Spur 24
UPDATE: Dave Tela, Spur 38, has volunteered to do the research at the National Archives! Thanks Dave – Bear